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Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:48 am

Ray Rice...perhaps the most vile American human being there is.

I hope and pray the NFL and the CFL remove him permanently from any hope of every playing again.

I hope someone presses charges and he goes to prison.

I hope that young lady, who is an idiot by the way, her daddy hires someone to make sure he never lifts a hand again. I tell you what, if he had lifted his hand to my daughter. He would have been a quadraplegic by now, either from my hand or a hired hand.

Can you say, "beaten wife syndrome." How stupid is this woman? She not only gets back with him, but marries him.

Ray Rice no doubt learned that from the man his momma must have been shaking up with. Unfortunate that he might have had to live with that and see that but he is a grown man and he knows right from wrong. Disgusting piece of crap!
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Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:00 pm

Yep, she is an idiot or is severely suffering from beaten wife syndrome. These are her remarks. Is there another woman reading this who would have stayed with this ahole for one single second after being struck and knocked out cold by this angry bully?

Hey, if she gets hit again....no one to blame but herself. I stick to my original thoughts had I been her daddy. He would still be in a hospital unconscious and possibly a paraplegic or quadriplegic.


"I woke up this morning feeling like I had a horrible nightmare, feeling like I'm mourning the death of my closest friend," she wrote in an Instagram post. "But to have to accept the fact that it's reality is a nightmare itself. No one knows the pain that the media & unwanted [opinions] from the public has caused my family. To make us relive a moment in our lives that we regret everyday is a horrible thing.

"To take something away from the man I love that he has worked his ass off for all his life just to gain ratings is horrific. THIS IS OUR LIFE! What don't you all get. If your intentions were to hurt us, embarrass us, make us feel alone, take all happiness away, you've succeeded on so many levels. Just know we will continue to grow & show the world what real love is! Ravensnation we love you!"

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ESPN's Josina Anderson spoke to the Rices by phone Tuesday. Asked how he was doing, Ray Rice responded, "I have to be strong for my wife. She is so strong. ... We are in good spirits. We have a lot of people praying for us and we 'll continue to support each other."

Rice added, "I have to be there for [Janay] and my family right now and work through this."

After that, Ray handed his phone to his wife Janay who said, "I love my husband. I support him. I want people to respect our privacy in this family matter."
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Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:26 am

Things are going to get very interesting. I believe without a doubt the NFL had possession of the tape and have lied about it. The commish did damage control and now has painted himself in a corner. Look for him to resign by Monday. When will these idiots learn....the coverup will get you every time.
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Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:30 am

Yes, the fans and owners will push for him to resign. He is an idiot. He had the video and did nothing. How can you view that footage and not take action. Does this moron not have a wife, a daughter or just plain basic common sense.

I wish Ray Rice would be subject to prison but he won't. She will be hit again, mark it.
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Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:44 am

PensacolaKid wrote:Yes, the fans and owners will push for him to resign. He is an idiot. He had the video and did nothing. How can you view that footage and not take action. Does this moron not have a wife, a daughter or just plain basic common sense.

I wish Ray Rice would be subject to prison but he won't. She will be hit again, mark it.
What proof do you have that the NFL Commissioner "had the video and did nothing"?
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Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:52 am

It has been all over the news. The Houston Chronicle mentioned it again this morning. Yahoo has it on their sports page.

They obviously had the tape of her being drug out of the elevator and as they said on the Five yesterday, this was an employee of the NFL. The NFL at the very least could have gone to the Police and gotten the video of the hit...that is, if they really wanted it.

It was told via the news when the first video came out of her being drug out of the elevator that the elevator had cameras installed. So, naturally there was video showing what happened.

It will come to light and very shortly that he (the Commissioner) had the blatant evidence and did not remove Ray Rice from the NFL.

Ray Rice was an NFL "star". That equates some how, some way with dollars. That will ultimately be the reason why he wasn't immediately released. MONEY.
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Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:18 am

PensacolaKid wrote:It has been all over the news. The Houston Chronicle mentioned it again this morning. Yahoo has it on their sports page.

They obviously had the tape of her being drug out of the elevator and as they said on the Five yesterday, this was an employee of the NFL. The NFL at the very least could have gone to the Police and gotten the video of the hit...that is, if they really wanted it.

It was told via the news when the first video came out of her being drug out of the elevator that the elevator had cameras installed. So, naturally there was video showing what happened.

It will come to light and very shortly that he (the Commissioner) had the blatant evidence and did not remove Ray Rice from the NFL.

Ray Rice was an NFL "star". That equates some how, some way with dollars. That will ultimately be the reason why he wasn't immediately released. MONEY.
Oh, you say “It has been all over the news”; Houston Chronical mentioned it again”; “they obviously had the tape”; NFL could have gone to the Police”; “It was told via the news”; “(the Commissioner) had the blatant evidence”.

I’ll ask again. What proof evidence do you or any news media have at this time that the NFL Commissioner had the 2nd video?
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Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:28 am

CNN on it's home page says..."according to an AP report, the NFL received a copy of the video in April."

There is no way, the NFL and the Commissioner who oversee's the NFL was not privy to what transpired in that elevator. They knew and remained silent on it and it will be his downfall and it should. The NFL did not do what should have been done almost immediately. The evidence was there, plainly on the video we all saw and the evidence was there via the video from inside the elevator that at the very least, the police had and the NFL could have gotten (at the time, if they did not already) The animal drags his wife out of the elevator and literally drops her on her face, outside the elevator. Does anyone with a brain believe she just passed out or fainted? Would a caring husband physically handle his wife that way? What happened was he, the Commissioner started to get heat he was not expecting and in letting him go days ago, is trying to save his ass.

It will come to a head in the days to come.
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Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:49 am

Here's the deal with this whole situation. We are talking about a very powerful organization here....the NFL. We are talking about an organization that is worth billions. Money is first and foremost.

Last year, we had a Dallas Cowboy who while driving and drinking, killed his teammate. He is being welcomed back into the league. A few years back, we had Michael Vick leading a disgusting and vile dog fighting ring. Back in the league. Example after example The NFL wants stars in the league. Stars represent money.

Plain ol God given common sense would certainly dictate that something vile happened in that elevator after witnessing the man just plopping his unconscious wife, face first on the ground and then casually walking around. Not even attending to her. The NFL had the responsibility since the man in question was in their employ and after viewing that part, which was horrible enough, to get the footage of the actions inside. The NFL and the Commissioner can say until they are blue in the face, that they did not see it or have access to it and I and the vast majority of America would call them liars.

NFL and Commissioner....you are telling me and the nation, the powerful NFL could not under any circumstance get access to the video either from the Hotel Casino Security or the Police Department. Really? Trying to cover your ass for not doing months ago what you should have done.
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Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:03 pm

Again, where's the evidence that the Commissioner knew about the 2nd video? Reports that news media think that he knew is not evidence.

About 25 years ago I was a juror in man being tried for murder. All of the other jurors other than yours truly kept saying that they thought the man was guilty. I kept asking the jurors for compelling evidence. The trial ended with a hung jury because of my holdout for the evidence. The prosecutor never retried the case for lack of evidence or that he thought it was a weak case to try again.

Just because you think something happened does not make it necessarily true. Period!
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Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:16 pm

It is not just me. I am just a voice on the side of common sense. Like I said.....it will come out and into the light very shortly that the NFL and the Commissioner knew long ago what transpired and they did nothing. I will leave it at that. I hope and pray this animal never returns to the NFL or CFL. Hope this does him in. Actually, if he repented on a national scale, since he made it a national story, found Christ and then actually showed a pattern of repented behavior, then we can talk.
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Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:34 pm

I feel your pain for not having an understanding what evidence is?

For those readers of the forum that do not understand what the word evidence means maybe this definition from Webster will help you out:

evidence noun \ˈe-və-dən(t)s, -və-ˌden(t)s\

: something which shows that something else exists or is true

: a visible sign of something

: material that is presented to a court of law to help find the truth about something
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Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:33 am

While I'm not following this closely - the only thing I heard, so far, is that there is a recording of "someone" (and I believe it was female?) from a phone number associated with NFL headquarters confirming to someone else (hotel?) that they had received a copy of the video that had been sent to them.
And apparently that NFL staffer (or whoever was at the NFL number?) had viewed it with a quote in the recorded phone call along the lines of, "yea, that looks pretty bad"...???
Have not herd that the recording has been vetted?? - or listened to by....????
Nor evidence (yet) whether it was actually elevated to the commish - or not?
While "evidence" is not yet solid enough for "conviction" - and it is too soon too have "trial" - will see what is confirmed.
Remember - there was a lot of "rumor" (and denial) about Clinton-Lewinski - before all the "blue dress" evidence and the Lewinski statements were confirmed.
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Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:11 am

Oh it will be confirmed, bank on it. Far too much circumstantial evidence at the very least points to the NFL and the Commissioner having full knowledge of what transpired IN the elevator.

Once again, are we to believe that the all powerful NFL, for whom an employee assaulted his wife in a public place, was not able to obtain a simple video of the incident in an elevator and virtually within days, if not hours. Riiiiiight!! Got some hillside property on the Western end of Navarre Beach I would like to sell ya!!!! That aside from seeing the said employee DRAG his wife out and PLOP her motionless body face down, mind you. And you (NFL/Commission) are not privy by any means to what transpired inside? Riiiight.

World News Tonight with David Muir, last night quoted..."sources at espn have confirmed that Commissioner Goddell had knowledge of the incident and in addition, was told by Ray Rice (via a phone call) that he had struck his wife." Ray Rice was also quoted as saying (upon exiting the elevator)..."I'm going to jail tonight!"

Sweep this crap under the rug....keep it quiet...we don't need this kind of press!!!

It will (formally, with paperwork) come out and ol Rog will be gone. There are and will be too many opposing factors against him. As well as he should be. The NFL is guilty of allowing far too much nonsense to exist and persist, within it's ranks. Why? BECAUSE IT MAKES JILLIONS OF DOLLARS, THAT'S WHY! MONEY!
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Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:16 am

Democratic or Republican Senators....I don't care. I am with these ladies on this.

Sixteen female U.S. senators have sent a letter to commissioner Roger Goodell calling for a "real zero-tolerance policy" against domestic violence in the NFL.

The letter was sent to Goodell on Thursday. In it, the senators say they were "shocked and disgusted" by the video released Monday of former Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice striking his then-fiancée Janay Palmer in an Atlantic City, New Jersey, casino elevator and a subsequent report by The Associated Press that a league executive received the video from a law enforcement official in April.

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"We are deeply concerned that the NFL's new policy, announced last month, would allow a player to commit a violent act against a woman and return after a short suspension," the letter reads. "If you violently assault a woman, you shouldn't get a second chance to play football in the NFL.

"The NFL's current policy sends a terrible message to players, fans and all Americans that even after committing a horrific act of violence, you can quickly be back on the field."

The letter ends with a call for the NFL "to institute a real zero-tolerance policy and send a strong message that the league will not tolerate violence against women by its players, who are role models for children across America."

The letter was put together by Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., and was signed by 14 Democrats and two Republicans.

President Barack Obama's press secretary released a statement earlier in the week, calling the issue of domestic violence "bigger than football."

"The president is the father of two daughters. And like any American, he believes that domestic violence is contemptible and unacceptable in a civilized society," the statement said. "Hitting a woman is not something a real man does, and that's true whether or not an act of violence happens in the public eye, or, far too often, behind closed doors. Stopping domestic violence is something that's bigger than football -- and all of us have a responsibility to put a stop to it."

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Ray Anderson, formerly the vice president of football operations under Goodell, expressed his displeasure with the turn of events inside league headquarters.

"I am personally very disappointed that the leadership at the NFL's New York office seems to be swirling around in chaos," Anderson told Arizona Sports 98.7 FM. "That's sad, because there are too many good people working there that don't deserve that and I'll just leave it at that."

Anderson later added, "In my time in the league, I thought there was an appropriate moral compass. I struggle now because I'm not sure I have as much faith that is occurring."

The NFL has denied receiving the Rice video and announced late Wednesday night that former FBI director Robert S. Mueller III will conduct an inquiry into how the league handled evidence as it investigated the claims against Rice. The investigation will be overseen by NFL owners John Mara of the New York Giants and Art Rooney II of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Terry O'Neill, the president of the National Organization for Women, issued a statement late Wednesday, calling Mueller's appointment "just window dressing."

Rice, 27, was charged with felony aggravated assault in his case, but in May he was accepted into a pretrial intervention program that allowed him to avoid jail time and could lead to the charge being purged from his record.

After Goodell drew criticism for not being tough enough on Rice, he wrote in a letter to all 32 team owners in August, "My disciplinary decision led the public to question our sincerity, our commitment, and whether we understood the toll that domestic violence inflicts on so many families. I take responsibility both for the decision and for ensuring that our actions in the future properly reflect our values."

"I didn't get it right," he added. "Simply put, we have to do better. And we will."

First-time offenders now face a six-game suspension.

Carolina Panthers defensive end Greg Hardy, who was convicted on two counts of domestic violence and is appealing the verdict, remains active, as does Ray McDonald of the San Francisco 49ers, who is being investigated for abuse allegations.

The Panthers and 49ers have not publicly discussed details of their investigations, saying only that they are following the NFL's lead in waiting for the legal process to run its course.

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
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