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My BOWL (MATCHUP)

Allstate BCS National Championship Game
(BCS vs. BCS) - January 9, 2012
LSU vs. Alabama


Other Bowl matchups to be announced at 6:15 PM Central Time tonight - 2 hours from now.
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IT'S ALABAMA!

Number 1 LSU will play Number 2 Alabama for the BCS National Championship Game.
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Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:34 am

The re-match of Alabama and LSU will insure that an SEC team will be the 6th straight Football National Champion. If you think that the SEC is the best football conference in the nation now, you ain’t seen nothing yet. The Bama vs. LSU re-match will create an SEC dynasty.

When the best high school recruits in the country sign with the college of their choice in February 2012 why would they choose an SEC team? They would choose an SEC team for the following reasons:

• The recruits now know that the SEC is the best conference.

• The recruits now know that the SEC will continue to be the best conference.

• The recruits now know that they have a better chance of being on a national championship team that is in the SEC.

• The recruits now know that their chances of winning the Heisman Trophy are much greater if the play on an SEC team.

• The recruits now know that their chances are much better going to the NFL if they are on an SEC team.

Yeah I know there is a lot of talk about the BCS match-up should have been Oklahoma State even though most supporters recognize that Oklahoma State is not one of the best 2 teams in the nation. The rationalization is that the football talent should be spread around to other teams. And that being one of the best 2 teams should not be the criteria.

I thought we learned this lesson in Little League where every player and every team wins a trophy. The solution to a fair and balanced match-up for the national college football championship should not be based upon “spreading the wealth around”.

A lot of you will not like what I am about to say. The selection of BAMA and LSU is a perfect example of pure Capitalism at work. “Spreading the wealth around” in selecting a football team for the national championship is not the way to go. The best 2 teams should play – the BCS made the right decision.
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Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:25 am

The BCS certainly does not have a perfect system. I for one have always been in favor of a playoff type system. However, for the current system that is in place, I think that the use of the term "best" is somewhat debatable. I believe no one can argue against LSU being in the National Championship game, undefeated, and winners of their conference. Alabama has one loss, which was in overtime to LSU. They did not play in the conference champsionship game. So is Alabama the "best"? Not in their respective conference. Oklahoma St has one loss like Alabama does. They did win their conference championship. They are the "best" in their conference with the same record as Alabama. So who really is the "best"? Won - Loss records, conference championships, non conference records, strength of schedule, all things that are looked at to determine the "best". Maybe it would be more appropriate to substitue "best" for "most deserving". And then there are some who would say to look at Division 1 as one conference. So there are are no champions yet, and conference records do not mean anything except overall record and the BCS National Championship is the conference championship game, and the number one and number two teams will play to decide the "best". So all the teams with one loss are tied for second, so you have a tie breaker to decide who goes to the BCS Championship game against the number one team and it is determined that Alabama is the best of those teams. I still say that this game should be another good one.
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Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:27 am

How they voted: Analyzing the coaches and Harris ballots that helped make Alabama No. 2

Published: Tuesday, December 06, 2011, 8:00 AM
By Jon Solomon -- The Birmingham News


BIRMINGHAM, Alabama -- Nick Saban didn't take any chances. Saban was the only SEC coach to separate Alabama and Oklahoma State by more than one poll spot, placing the Cowboys No. 4 on his ballot behind Stanford in the latest USA Today coaches poll that helped send Alabama to the BCS Championship Game.

Five other coaches around the country had at least a two-spot gap between Alabama and Oklahoma State. That included Air Force's Troy Calhoun, who placed the Cowboys fifth behind Stanford and three SEC teams (LSU, Alabama and Arkansas).

The other four coaches: Duke's David Cutcliffe, Stanford's David Shaw, Syracuse's Doug Marrone and Missouri's Gary Pinkel. Pinkel takes his allegiance to the SEC next season and left a parting gift as the only Big 12 coach to vote Alabama ahead of Oklahoma State.

The Big 12 was the only conference Alabama lost to Oklahoma State among coaches. Alabama won the WAC (3-1 margin), C-USA (4-2), ACC (5-1), MAC (4-2), Sun Belt (3-1), Big Ten (4-2), Mountain West (3-1), SEC (6-0), Pac-12 (4-2) and Big East (4-0). Alabama and Oklahoma State split two independent votes.

Auburn coach Gene Chizik ranked Alabama No. 2 behind LSU, as did LSU's Les Miles. Former Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville, now at Texas Tech in the Big 12, put Oklahoma State at No. 2. Oklahoma State's Mike Gundy didn't have a vote.

Some voters were odder in the 115-person Harris Poll, which combined with the 59 coaches to count toward two-thirds of the BCS formula.
Oklahoma State was ranked sixth by three Harris voters: former Iowa sports information director George Wine, former Hawaii coach Bob Wagner, and former Notre Dame wide receiver Derrick Mayes. Wine, 80, had one of the more unusual ballots, selecting Houston -- fresh off a 49-28 loss to Southern Miss -- at No. 5 and one spot ahead of Oklahoma State.

"I think the BCS is just a mess," Wine told The St. Petersburg Times. "I think college football is crying for a playoff system. This voting is highly subjective. ... I probably don't do as much research ... but who the (heck) knows whether Oregon is better than Wisconsin?"

All together, 22 of the 174 human voters (13 percent) ranked Oklahoma State fourth or lower on their ballots. Alabama had only two votes lower than No. 3. Former Stanford quarterback Todd Husak and former Iowa State and Washington State coach Jim Walden each ranked the Crimson Tide No. 4.

ESPN BCS analyst Brad Edwards said even if every voter that ranked the Cowboys fourth or lower put them at 3, Alabama would have still finished No. 2 with a BCS average of .942 to .938 for Oklahoma State.

As usual, there were some interesting votes by coaches.

Vanderbilt's James Franklin placed five SEC teams in the top 10, meaning he ranked Georgia eight spots higher than the Bulldogs' own coach, Mark Richt. Then again, North Carolina State's Tom O'Brien ranked Georgia at No. 7.

Eighteen coaches voted for their own team. Of those 18, 14 ranked their team higher than they finished in the coaches poll.

This year's inflation award goes to Virginia's Mike London and Louisiana Tech's Sonny Dykes. They each ranked their own team in the top 25 yet only one other coach joined them.

The honesty award goes to Virginia Tech's Frank Beamer, who ranked the Hokies 13th yet they finished 11th. Virginia Tech was a controversial and surprising selection to play in the Sugar Bowl despite not defeating any teams currently ranked in the top 25.
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Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:53 pm

Yep, the subjectivity can be interesting at best. But I do think the rematch is the right call.
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Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:04 pm

I’m posting this cry-baby image to console my Oklahoma State Cry-Baby Fans. Just keep on crying – you’ll feel better.

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Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:10 pm

Obama to Oklahoma State Fans:

"I feel your pain"


"I can save the college football national championship next year by creating another “Super Committee” in Congress that will utilize socialistic measures to force social justice by “spreading the wealth around” or “spreading the talent around” – it’s all the same. This “Super Committee” will be much smarter than the Coaches Poll, Sports News Writers Poll, Harris Poll and the BCS Computer that voted Alabama as the Number 2 Team. Social justice dictates that my “Super Committee” is very competent in selecting the top 2 teams in the national championship game."

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Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:35 pm

:lol:
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Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:53 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Very Funny Stuff!!!!
LOL!!!
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Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:37 am

That is pretty funny but I am excited to see Luck FINALLY being able to play against some type of competition. I want to see what this kid does with speed in front of him. I also want to see what Stanford's defense will do with a Pro Class offense.

Unless, the Bama quarterback steps up his game, I believe the Tide will come up short against the Tigers. Also their field goal game had better improve. Nothing is indicating that this game will be any different especially since they will have 45 days off before the game. That is waaaaaay toooo much time to play a national championship. Their speed, timing, routes will probably be off to some degree (both teams) and I expect some penalties as well.

I believe this time though, it will be Bama by 6. Saban will have those kids ready.
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Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:25 pm

I Agree!

ROLLLLLL TIDE!!!!
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Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:00 pm

I know you guys are baiting me and trying to make me feel better. Bama missed 4 field goals from the 30 yard line to the 33 yard line. Bama needs to get their kicker much closer, like the 20 yard line. Nick Saban never found fought with his kicker - he blamed the missed kicks on Bama not being closer to the 20 yard line. I agree!

If Bama can get to the Red Zone on their drives whether they are touchdowns or field goals, they will beat LSU, because in my opinion the Bama defense is better.

Score Prediction:
Alabama 24
LSU 10
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Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:09 am

Kenny,

There is no reason why a top 3 school in the country, year end and year out, like an Alabama, can not recruit a top ten kicker in the country. Maybe those kickers were top ten and they just had a horrible game? Bama should have a kicker every single year which ironically enough, Auburn seems to have every year. Texas is another example, as is Nebraska. Each of those schools actively seeks, recruits and signs a top prep kicker and in virtually every case, they go pro. In my opinion, there is no excuse for a Bama kicker(s) to miss from 30-35 yards. Those are chip shots.

It is my guess that those Bama kickers have stepped up their kicking game. The problem, should it arise again, will be the, "head" game. Will they be able to come through the next time, versus what they did not do the first time, swirling in their head?
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Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:48 am

Bama got a kicker. LSU received a commitment from the #1 prep passing QB in the country, Gunner Keil from Indiana. Miles - 7, Saban - 3. :wink:
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